Jul 07 17:09:00 <NickE> short rewrite needed
Jul 07 17:09:00 <MaGnUs> oh, inferno 2
Jul 07 17:09:05 <NickE> apparentl
Jul 07 17:09:05 <EML> Juggler IS done. It'd been turned in and accepted by our editor.
Jul 07 17:09:24 <Hippy> This is the sequel to Fleet of Worlds?
Jul 07 17:09:24 <UncleNasty> SWEET! out home made cheese is not just edible, it's good!
Jul 07 17:09:28 <BillWarren> We hit 114F on Thursday here.
Jul 07 17:09:28 <NickE> Excellent. Still waiting with baited everything for FoW
Jul 07 17:09:37 <NickE> Nice
Jul 07 17:09:38 <MaGnUs> cool nasty
Jul 07 17:09:42 <MaGnUs> I have homemade beer
Jul 07 17:09:42 <NickE> (cheese)
Jul 07 17:09:51 <NickE> even better.
Jul 07 17:09:53 <Hippy> It's probably around 58 F here and the sun isn't even up yet
Jul 07 17:10:10 <MaGnUs> and it's stout
Jul 07 17:10:11 <BillWarren> Jealous, jealous, covet, covet, UncleNasty!
Jul 07 17:10:14 <UncleNasty> EML: is release still 2008?
Jul 07 17:10:15 <NickE> See with booth tech, we could have party with home grown beer and chees!"
Jul 07 17:10:20 <EML> Baited breath, ay? Do you fancy worms or lures? ;-)
Jul 07 17:10:28 <NickE> :-)
Jul 07 17:10:40 <UncleNasty> BillWarren: we're trying a cheddar next
Jul 07 17:10:46 <NickE> I'll stick to tne beer
Jul 07 17:11:04 <EML> Fleet of Worlds release is October 2007. Juggler of Worlds release is (nominally) September 2008.
Jul 07 17:11:04 <UncleNasty> and I'm doing 5 gallons of mead for the winter
Jul 07 17:11:11 <NickE> Oh lush
Jul 07 17:11:12 <BillWarren> So you said. Sharp sharp?
Jul 07 17:11:22 <NickE> Mead is nice
Jul 07 17:11:41 <UncleNasty> as sharp as we can make it - had a hard time finding a good cheddar in canada
Jul 07 17:12:00 <NickE> Sharp is good in a cheddar
Jul 07 17:12:01 <UncleNasty> lots of nice artisan cheeses from european roots, but no decent cheddar
Jul 07 17:12:05 <BillWarren> I love mead, too. Yum!
Jul 07 17:12:39 <UncleNasty> the think that impresses me most is that the home-made cheese-press worked
Jul 07 17:12:54 <UncleNasty> 2 bits of wood, a coffee tin & some weight-plates
Jul 07 17:12:56 <NickE> I once even had a Red Leicester that took the roof of your mouth off! Fantastic stuff. From a deli in Buxton Neil
Jul 07 17:12:58 <BillWarren> The closer a cheese smells to dirty socks, the better it tastes.
Jul 07 17:13:22 <NickE> strange but often true
Jul 07 17:13:28 <UncleNasty> NickE: try to get to hartington - near buxton - they do a cheddar that makes your salivary glands cramp
Jul 07 17:13:43 <UncleNasty> and the unpasteurised stilton is food of the gods
Jul 07 17:14:06 <Hippy> So this is where Louis Wu got his cheese fixation, I see
Jul 07 17:14:13 <UncleNasty> heh
Jul 07 17:14:34 <EML> Hippy, I missed your question above. You can consider Juggler a sequel to Fleet -- or you can consider them parallel stories. Juggler begins before, and finsihes after, Fleet.
Jul 07 17:14:56 <BillWarren> That's the secret to the tasp ... it fills your mouth with that flavor.
Jul 07 17:15:10 <NickE> Heh> will bear that in mind
Jul 07 17:15:11 <Hippy> Ah, parallel then. Thanks. I await Fleet with the abovementioned baited breath
Jul 07 17:15:33 <Hippy> In the wrong hands such a weapon could be very powerful
Jul 07 17:15:43 <EML> You'll see some events from differing viewpoints, and downstream consequences of some of the events in Fleet.
Jul 07 17:15:52 <UncleNasty> stilton with McVities Digestives...
Jul 07 17:15:54 <NickE> kewl
Jul 07 17:15:56 <UncleNasty> mmmmmm
Jul 07 17:16:02 <NickE> og good thats good
Jul 07 17:16:12 <EML> Some of that sharp cheese could be used for baiting breath.
Jul 07 17:16:15 * senax is getting hungry now
Jul 07 17:16:27 <BillWarren> I'm with Senax! ;)
Jul 07 17:16:35 * Hippy isn't, not being a big cheese man
Jul 07 17:16:40 <NickE> (have good brie and emmental and crackers bough recently...I may be gone some time!
Jul 07 17:16:47 <UncleNasty> LOL
Jul 07 17:17:58 <NickE> Love the stinky stuff. rotten milk it may be but it odes amazing things to your taste buds
Jul 07 17:18:03 <BillWarren> Are you in Australia or NZ, Hippy?
Jul 07 17:18:20 <EML> Will the whole chat eventually posted to the Known Space site?
Jul 07 17:18:34 <druggie> cheesy peas... they're cheese, with peas. try our new RoadKill Cheesy peas
Jul 07 17:18:45 <UncleNasty> oh man - cheesy peas
Jul 07 17:18:52 <UncleNasty> you'll be quoting burt bastard next
Jul 07 17:18:55 <NickE> Sean wiull be logging it and Mark will eventually post the log
Jul 07 17:19:04 <senax> mmm...roadkill
Jul 07 17:19:06 <EML> Keen, thanks.
Jul 07 17:19:22 <druggie> with extra sloths
Jul 07 17:19:47 <oliver> Isn't that an endangered species?
Jul 07 17:20:24 <NickE> I think I'll wait till I switch to the whiskey 'fore I raid teh cheese stores. Won't be too long :-)
Jul 07 17:20:25 <BillWarren> Rare sloths are endangered ... extra sloths not so much.
Jul 07 17:20:51 * senax likes a nice medium rare sloth
Jul 07 17:20:58 <druggie> yeah. all the more reason to peel them off your 'roo bar and eat um!
Jul 07 17:20:59 <EML> There's a great TV commercial from the milk council. A little boy gets a few Xmas gifts; her sister gets a ton. Brother asks what kind of cookies she left, and sister, grinning goonily, says "I left him CHEESE."
Jul 07 17:21:01 <NickE> <grin>
Jul 07 17:21:06 <UncleNasty> has anyone sat and watched "Children of Men"?
Jul 07 17:21:20 <UncleNasty> lol@EML
Jul 07 17:21:41 <druggie> yeah. i watched that. I thought it was well done... but I looked in the box and couldn't find the razor blade
Jul 07 17:21:49 <UncleNasty> lol
Jul 07 17:21:55 <BillWarren> I remember that one, Ed!
Jul 07 17:21:57 <UncleNasty> i thought it was surprisingly good
Jul 07 17:22:17 <Hippy> Bill, I'm in Melbourne, Australia
Jul 07 17:22:57 <NickE> Yep. we'sa alla round the planet today
Jul 07 17:22:59 <BillWarren> Well, glad you could make it! Good morning!
Jul 07 17:23:27 <NickE> Next best thing to transfer booths :-)
Jul 07 17:23:35 <EML> How did we happen to get onto cheese?
Jul 07 17:23:46 <BillWarren> I'm checking in from Central Washington State.
Jul 07 17:23:50 <NickE> Neil is cooking some home grown up
Jul 07 17:23:51 <druggie> because of our new product. cheesy peas.
Jul 07 17:23:53 <UncleNasty> my wife made a colby/jack cheese
Jul 07 17:23:59 <UncleNasty> we just got to test it
Jul 07 17:24:00 <druggie> (you have to image that in a northern english accent.)
Jul 07 17:24:14 <UncleNasty> and cheese is one of the few things I miss from t'old country
Jul 07 17:24:27 <Hippy> Thanks, Bill, It's shaping up to be brielfy sunny before the much-needed rain sweeps in again
Jul 07 17:24:50 <UncleNasty> "D'ya lahk cheese? D'ya lahk peas?"
Jul 07 17:24:57 <EML> NickE -- never mind transfer booths. There is much to be revealed about stepping discs ...
Jul 07 17:25:06 <druggie> http://www.rich.durge.org/pics1/cheesy.html
Jul 07 17:25:27 <druggie> uncle -> that's the one.
Jul 07 17:25:36 <druggie> the only northern accent I can do is reciting that. I don't know why.
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Jul 07 17:25:40 <Hippy> Oh, good, Ed. Excellent
Jul 07 17:25:59 <druggie> Eddie, come back... all is forgiven!
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Jul 07 17:26:12 <senax> Cheese, peas and strawberry jam? I don't think I'm hungry anymore
Jul 07 17:26:13 <NickE> wups
Jul 07 17:26:22 <UncleNasty> i hail from the Stoke area - our accent makes 'northern' sound like the queen's english
Jul 07 17:26:32 <Hippy> Druggie, where are you located?
Jul 07 17:26:32 <NickE> HA!
Jul 07 17:26:33 <EML> $%^#!! browswer just crashed.
Jul 07 17:27:18 <UncleNasty> EML: how are you accessing the chat? webpage java app?
Jul 07 17:27:27 <NickE> Mark is in Oswaldtwistle Lancs
Jul 07 17:27:29 <EML> cheese and peas? that's just a cruel thing to DO to cheese.
Jul 07 17:27:39 <druggie> "eccles, turn the knob on your side."
Jul 07 17:27:45 <druggie> "But I don't have a knob on my side"
Jul 07 17:27:51 <Hippy> Druggie is Mark?
Jul 07 17:27:52 <NickE> I dont have a knob on my side
Jul 07 17:27:54 <EML> Yup, webpage Java app.
Jul 07 17:27:56 <UncleNasty> it's from a comedy show - the fast show
Jul 07 17:28:00 <UncleNasty> _very_ twisted
Jul 07 17:28:04 <NickE> Dead funny
Jul 07 17:28:19 <NickE> was scorchiop today...well compared to recently
Jul 07 17:28:20 <druggie> Ying tong ying tong ying tong ying tong idilli po"
Jul 07 17:28:24 <NickE> scorchio
Jul 07 17:28:32 <Hippy> Ah, yes. 'The Fast Show'. I used to love that old guy with his mumbled anecdotes
Jul 07 17:28:36 <UncleNasty> I like Burt Bastard - especially his 'Eastern Europe' talk
Jul 07 17:29:04 <NickE> <Nick flings a batter pudding in Mark's general direction>
Jul 07 17:29:11 <druggie> I'm mark. Carol called me a druggie ... (as I am an affirmed cannabis smoker)... so i changed my nick
Jul 07 17:29:15 <UncleNasty> Hippy: They loiks it when you tickles their clematis!
Jul 07 17:29:32 <druggie> I want to see some Kenny Everett.
Jul 07 17:29:48 <NickE> Ken was very good wehn he was on form
Jul 07 17:29:54 <UncleNasty> druggie: so long as it's done in the best POSSIBLE taste
Jul 07 17:29:57 <druggie> Esp. the one with Rod Stuart floating away
Jul 07 17:30:05 <NickE> Captn Kermmen was hilarious
Jul 07 17:30:16 <Hippy> I agrree
Jul 07 17:30:23 <NickE> Used to listen to him on Capitol Radio
Jul 07 17:30:25 * druggie is now known as Cupid_Stunt
Jul 07 17:30:31 <Hippy> . . .with two 'r's to show my sincerity
Jul 07 17:30:36 <NickE> LOLLOLOLOLOL
Jul 07 17:30:47 <MaGnUs> see y'all later
Jul 07 17:30:53 <UncleNasty> ttyl MaGnUs
Jul 07 17:30:56 <NickE> TTFN MgNuS
Jul 07 17:30:56 <Hippy> 'Bye Magnus
Jul 07 17:31:05 <UncleNasty> hrm
Jul 07 17:31:11 <BillWarren> Bye, MaGnUs ... thx for the link!
Jul 07 17:31:11 <Cupid_Stunt> "Round 'em up, put 'em in a field, and BOMB THE BASTARDS!"
Jul 07 17:31:15 <UncleNasty> i used to have a large collection of goons mp3s
Jul 07 17:31:28 <UncleNasty> Ello. Sid Snot 'ere
Jul 07 17:31:32 <NickE> My dad is a huge goon fan
Jul 07 17:31:34 <Cupid_Stunt> i have some. (goon shows) there was a site that put two different ones up every week
Jul 07 17:31:36 <MaGnUs> no, thank you for visiting it bill :P
Jul 07 17:31:39 <NickE> it stuck
Jul 07 17:31:49 <Hippy> This is excellent reminiscing for the Americans. . .
Jul 07 17:31:50 <Cupid_Stunt> "Open your wallets and repeat after me: Help Yourself"
Jul 07 17:32:01 <NickE> I';ll look properly when I get a chance. Bookmatrked
Jul 07 17:32:05 * UncleNasty is now known as Bloodnock
Jul 07 17:32:16 <Bloodnock> Money? IT'S MINE!
Jul 07 17:32:38 <BillWarren> The Goons, Python, and SCTV ... American humor largely sucks by comparison.
Jul 07 17:32:45 <NickE> Moriarty, get him!
Jul 07 17:32:55 <EML> head spinning. feeling weak. passing cheese through my nose.
Jul 07 17:33:00 <NickE> LOL
Jul 07 17:33:03 <NickE> Sorry Ed
Jul 07 17:33:04 <Bloodnock> Count Jim "Flies" (bzzzzz) Moriarty??
Jul 07 17:33:23 <NickE> Yeeess
Jul 07 17:33:31 <Hippy> I don't know, Bill. There are some things Americans can do well. . .but for the moment I can't think of them. Oh, yes. Imagine an English 'Seinfeld'. . .
Jul 07 17:33:41 <EML> as Sinatra might have said (ahem): I did it my whey.
Jul 07 17:33:49 * Cupid_Stunt is now known as grip_pipe_thyne
Jul 07 17:33:53 <grip_pipe_thyne> I say, Neddie...
Jul 07 17:33:57 <Bloodnock> ooooooooooh PunFu, is it?
Jul 07 17:34:04 <NickE> Griptite Thyne
Jul 07 17:34:12 <Bloodnock> Gritpipe!
Jul 07 17:34:29 <NickE> Needle nardle noo!
Jul 07 17:34:44 * Bloodnock is now known as Neddie_Seagoon
Jul 07 17:34:59 * grip_pipe_thyne is now known as Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne
Jul 07 17:35:07 <Neddie_Seagoon> Ahhh
Jul 07 17:35:30 <NickE> s' not fair,2 computers to one
Jul 07 17:35:34 <NickE> :-)
Jul 07 17:35:43 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> There's the Charley who will drink loch loman for us
Jul 07 17:36:07 <BillWarren> I've been to a Ren Faire but never a 'snot fair...
Jul 07 17:36:14 <NickE> LOL (fuckin helpless you rotten swine!)
Jul 07 17:36:23 <Neddie_Seagoon> and here come Bluebottle with his cardboard cut-out & string pistol!
Jul 07 17:36:31 <EML> Defending American humor, I really liked Friends. That said, I really like what the Brits did with it: Coupling. (Now the American remake of Coupling ... that didn't cut it.)
Jul 07 17:36:41 <NickE> agreed
Jul 07 17:36:47 <Neddie_Seagoon> has anyone seen "The IT Crowd"??
Jul 07 17:36:54 * Neddie_Seagoon is now known as UncleNasty
Jul 07 17:36:57 <NickE> Lked both, but c'mon, the Goons!
Jul 07 17:37:12 <Hippy> Grytpype-Thynne, but it's too late to say that now :)
Jul 07 17:37:15 <NickE> Supreme daftyness
Jul 07 17:37:31 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> I've seen the IT crowd. It was good. They are doing another season
Jul 07 17:37:45 <UncleNasty> yup
Jul 07 17:37:46 <Hippy> Oh, a question, not Goons-related. What is this 'unexpurgated' version of 'Red Planet' I've been hearing about?
Jul 07 17:37:55 <UncleNasty> it nearly killed my canbadian IT minions
Jul 07 17:37:58 <UncleNasty> canadian
Jul 07 17:37:59 <NickE> Love The IT Crowd. Supposed to be a 2nd series, but not seen anything concrete
Jul 07 17:38:00 <BillWarren> I was very pleasantly surprised with a "sleeper" of a film I just found this week ... Cameron Diaz,Christina Applegate, "The Sweetest Thing" ... belly-laughing, cheesk-hurting LOL funny!
Jul 07 17:38:31 <UncleNasty> http://www.thegoonshow.net/characters.asp
Jul 07 17:38:38 <NickE> Not aware of that
Jul 07 17:38:46 <UncleNasty> hrm - may have to watch
Jul 07 17:39:00 <UncleNasty> I went retro this week - re-watched Tommy for the first time in about 20 years
Jul 07 17:39:05 <UncleNasty> what an amazing film
Jul 07 17:39:14 <Hippy> Ed, you make a good point about 'Friends'. That sort of 'comedy of manners' the Americans can do well
Jul 07 17:39:23 <NickE> Confetti was very good. Watched tha last night, very funny in palces and well doneand clever, with mostly improv lines
Jul 07 17:39:41 <Hippy> I've seen 'The IT Crowd' and it's better than 'Black Books' in my humble opinion
Jul 07 17:39:46 <UncleNasty> Friends was good the first couple of seasons
Jul 07 17:39:50 <BillWarren> And to make matters worse, they gathered the cast, director, and writer (Nancy Pimental) for the commentary and armed them wth slide whistles, whoopie cushions, and helium balloons!
Jul 07 17:40:14 <NickE> Ohh...I got series 1 and 2 of Black Books for Fathers Day, it's good
Jul 07 17:40:15 <UncleNasty> heh - I recently re-acquired all 3 seasons of Bottom
Jul 07 17:40:33 <UncleNasty> Ade Edmondson and Rick Mayall
Jul 07 17:40:40 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> I'm going to have to reboot this thing at some point. The Finder has been locked up for about six hours now. Stupid Spinny Cursor
Jul 07 17:40:52 <UncleNasty> kill it!
Jul 07 17:40:54 <NickE> Funny, loved the Young Ones, but never really got bottom (Wife hated it so never got the chance really)
Jul 07 17:40:55 <EML> Hippy, what's your take on Seinfeld? I'm constantly astonished at how they tie everything together
Jul 07 17:41:15 <EML> Finders keepers.
Jul 07 17:41:30 <Hippy> 'Bottom'? Sophisticated humour at its finest :)
Jul 07 17:41:44 <UncleNasty> NickE: I think I like it because it reminds me of my relationship with my older brother
Jul 07 17:41:46 <BillWarren> "Bottom"? Is this a British TV show, or ...?
Jul 07 17:41:49 <NickE> (Jsut IMO, watched some Seifield. Never even smiled once)
Jul 07 17:41:58 <NickE> HAHAHA
Jul 07 17:42:09 <NickE> Very basic humour
Jul 07 17:42:27 <NickE> violent toilet type funny
Jul 07 17:42:29 <UncleNasty> BillWarren: it's a very seriously deranged show about 2 idiots
Jul 07 17:43:01 <UncleNasty> BillWarren: http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/b/bottom_7770880.shtml
Jul 07 17:43:05 <BillWarren> Have never heard of it, UnkaN ...
Jul 07 17:43:17 <NickE> NOt surprising
Jul 07 17:43:30 <UncleNasty> It's a seriously niche
Jul 07 17:43:31 <Hippy> Ed: I don't think 'Seinfeld' is the work of genius that is claimed for it, but I do like that its comedy is based on 'what is right, moral and polite behavour?' and how it answers those questions. That's why its a good example of American humour.
Jul 07 17:43:45 <UncleNasty> it would almost definitely never be aired in north america
Jul 07 17:43:45 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> I liked the show within a show idea.
Jul 07 17:44:05 <NickE> Always wanted to see Filthy Rich and Catflap, but never did
Jul 07 17:44:06 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> where they were having a show made about them, and they had to help cast it
Jul 07 17:44:13 <BillWarren> Thanks, I'll look into that. BBC, I see ...
Jul 07 17:44:41 <EML> I know people who think Seinfeld is only American humor -- or only New York humor.
Jul 07 17:44:48 <UncleNasty> Filthy, Rich & Catflap was good
Jul 07 17:45:03 <Hippy> FR&C only had one good episode, which was the one where Richie is on the game show. But it had occasionally good lines, like 'Lager Frenzy!!!'
Jul 07 17:45:11 <NickE> I just nvere got what all the fuss was about with Seinfield
Jul 07 17:45:22 <EML> Pretty soon now, I'm gonna toddle off. Eastern time zone and all -- nigh onto dinner.
Jul 07 17:45:43 <NickE> 'S what Larry said
Jul 07 17:45:52 <UncleNasty> "Why are you in my bed?" " well I can't sleep in my bed! it's full of beer!" "you were sick in your bed, weren't you?" " well, there was some unpleasantness involved, yes"
Jul 07 17:45:56 <NickE> bout 2 hours ago :-)
Jul 07 17:46:00 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> I don't know any English folks who like Seinfield. I got sick of it after the first few seasons.
Jul 07 17:46:04 <BillWarren> I know people with tee shirts that sa "Friends don't let friends watch 'Friends'"
Jul 07 17:46:14 <Hippy> I'm here for another two hours but then I shall have to get ready for my mother's arrival
Jul 07 17:46:23 <EML> What's what Larry said?
Jul 07 17:46:27 <NickE> Ooo err :-)
Jul 07 17:46:37 <NickE> Had to go for lunch :-)
Jul 07 17:46:51 <NickE> dinner
Jul 07 17:46:58 <NickE> mid day meal
Jul 07 17:47:02 <UncleNasty> brb - need to be a good husband/father (wife's cooking banned by geneva convention)
Jul 07 17:47:03 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> dinner lunch or dinner supper
Jul 07 17:47:11 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> it's lunch, then dinner
Jul 07 17:47:15 <NickE> what he said
Jul 07 17:47:35 <EML> well THAT clears things up ;-)
Jul 07 17:47:52 <UncleNasty> wtf is lunch? it's brekkie, dinner & tea, damn you all ;)
Jul 07 17:48:07 <senax> What about second breakfast?
Jul 07 17:48:29 <EML> senax, the secret Hobbit.
Jul 07 17:48:31 <Hippy> It's lunch, then tea - but the younger generation now says 'dinner'. Now, there's a bit of Known Space lore waiting to happen. If 'sandwich' becomes 'handmeal' then what do the meals become?
Jul 07 17:48:37 <BillWarren> It's hobbit-forming, Senax.;)
Jul 07 17:49:07 <EML> meal becomes "ground sandwich"
Jul 07 17:49:18 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> You silly twisted boy, you!
Jul 07 17:49:31 <NickE> LOL
Jul 07 17:50:21 <EML> Okay, all. Good chatting with ya. I'm outta here.
Jul 07 17:50:29 * Hippy afk briefly for another tea
Jul 07 17:50:33 <NickE> Bye Ed, catch you next time
Jul 07 17:50:36 <senax> bye EML
Jul 07 17:50:38 <Hippy> 'Bye, Ed. Thanks for the JOW info
Jul 07 17:50:38 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> nice talking to you Ed.
Jul 07 17:50:45 <oliver> It is around midnight here. Good bye and good night.
Jul 07 17:50:52 <NickE> Night Oliver
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Jul 07 17:51:13 <BillWarren> Night, Ed!
Jul 07 17:51:13 <Hippy> When he moves, he moves fast
Jul 07 17:51:17 <NickE> brb
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Jul 07 17:52:31 <BillWarren> And I've been up all night and am fading, myself -- I think I'll bow out as well and catch a few winks. It's been fun, everyone!
Jul 07 17:52:32 <MobileNasty> Yarrr!! I r lovin this phone
Jul 07 17:52:49 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> goodnight bill.
Jul 07 17:52:54 <senax> Bye bill
Jul 07 17:52:59 <MobileNasty> Adios bill
Jul 07 17:53:12 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> Isn't anyone going to stay, and help us clean up?
Jul 07 17:53:17 <BillWarren> I'll see you all next time, if I can.
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Jul 07 17:54:24 <Hippy> 'I"m sorry about the mess, we've just had the Communists in'
Jul 07 17:54:38 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> Open Wide, Time for your OBE
Jul 07 17:54:42 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> heh
Jul 07 17:56:16 <MobileNasty> Moriarty! It' time for your "Ow"!
Jul 07 17:56:34 <NickE> Oh bugger missed Bill
Jul 07 17:56:37 <MobileNasty> S/It'/It's
Jul 07 17:56:38 <NickE> Ow
Jul 07 17:56:52 <MobileNasty> Splendid
Jul 07 17:57:23 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> rebooting
Jul 07 17:58:21 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> damn Moriarty. Mac OS won't reboot. We're trapped here, forever!
Jul 07 17:58:29 <NickE> Wow. Just tried some Black Bottle whiskey. Its a blende, but tastes like a decent Jura malt. For a tenner in Sainsbury's!
Jul 07 17:58:35 <MobileNasty> Anyone who is interested in simple time wasting games should check out "Transcendence"
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Jul 07 17:59:15 <MobileNasty> Whiskey makes me v.nasty
Jul 07 17:59:24 <NickE> whassat then?
Jul 07 17:59:37 <NickE> makes me talkative
Jul 07 17:59:57 <MobileNasty> It's a simple top down shooter rpg a la star command
Jul 07 18:00:25 <NickE> Oh dear, better check it out I s'pose
Jul 07 18:00:34 <MobileNasty> It free
Jul 07 18:00:50 <NickE> Quick Q. What is "lament" teh collective noun of
Jul 07 18:00:51 <Hippy> I"ll have a look at it, but at the moment I'm playing 'Age of Empires' again for lack of any decent new games on the horizon
Jul 07 18:00:59 <MobileNasty> Doze game but runs well in cedega or wine on linux
Jul 07 18:01:23 <Hippy> Doves, isn't it? 'A lamentation of doves'?
Jul 07 18:01:47 <MobileNasty> Hippy: try and grab a copy of first encounters
Jul 07 18:02:11 <Hippy> First Encounters? Okay, I'll keep it in mind
Jul 07 18:02:26 <NickE> oh, could be
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Jul 07 18:02:30 <Hippy> Unless anyone has cheat codes for the PC version of 'Driver 3'
Jul 07 18:02:38 <MobileNasty> Wb!
Jul 07 18:02:48 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> thanks. I had to hit the button.
Jul 07 18:03:12 <senax> Did you try using the shutdown command in a terminal window?
Jul 07 18:03:22 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> no. should have done.
Jul 07 18:03:37 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> duh
Jul 07 18:04:59 <NickE> found one that said it was swans not doves
Jul 07 18:05:49 <NickE> off for cheese :-)
Jul 07 18:06:02 <UncleNasty> cheese, gromit?
Jul 07 18:06:06 <Hippy> That sounds familiar, and I must say that I was going on memory, I didn't look it up
Jul 07 18:06:43 <Hippy> Hmm. A what of Kzinti? 'Pride' seems logical, if unimaginative.
Jul 07 18:07:27 * UncleNasty is reminded of the wonderful 'they're cats' skit on the list
Jul 07 18:07:51 <Hippy> I shall have to look that up
Jul 07 18:09:00 <UncleNasty> doves appears to be a 'dule' or 'pitying'
Jul 07 18:10:16 <UncleNasty> NickE: http://neurohack.com/transcendence/
Jul 07 18:10:58 <Hippy> Looks most excellent
Jul 07 18:11:08 <senax> "Troop" would work...
Jul 07 18:11:30 <UncleNasty> it's extensible, too - you can write add-ons to the game in xml
Jul 07 18:11:40 <senax> Most of the terms I've found for a group of cats seem downright silly.
Jul 07 18:12:24 <UncleNasty> clowder or punce?
Jul 07 18:12:27 <UncleNasty> pounce?
Jul 07 18:12:48 <UncleNasty> i always considered a melee of cats to be accurate
Jul 07 18:12:57 <NickE> PAul Chafe uses Pride in Destiny's Forge, though not as a collective
Jul 07 18:13:11 <UncleNasty> Patriarch's Pride
Jul 07 18:13:14 <UncleNasty> or whatever
Jul 07 18:14:08 <senax> Something with a military connotation would be appropriate, I think.
Jul 07 18:14:09 <Hippy> That he does. Of course, as Kzinti are sentient you wouldn't be using collective nouns with them, though they might with us and other species. A cringe of Puppeteers?
Jul 07 18:14:41 <NickE> heh]#
Jul 07 18:14:50 <Hippy> Hello, there's a big glowing thing just coming over the horizon. I wonder if our descendants will colonise America, Europe. . .
Jul 07 18:15:29 <Hippy> A shriek of Kdatlyno (due to the sound they make)
Jul 07 18:16:00 <Hippy> You need something from Lewis Carroll for Bandersnatchi
Jul 07 18:16:25 <UncleNasty> a gimble of bandersnatch?
Jul 07 18:16:35 <Hippy> Yes!
Jul 07 18:16:50 <senax> gimble is a verb, though.
Jul 07 18:16:51 <UncleNasty> a mimsy?
Jul 07 18:16:52 <Hippy> I was running through the poem and couldn't find anything, so well done
Jul 07 18:17:01 <UncleNasty> ahh
Jul 07 18:17:05 <UncleNasty> wabe!
Jul 07 18:17:10 <UncleNasty> a wabe of bandersnatch
Jul 07 18:17:17 <NickE> :-)
Jul 07 18:17:19 <Hippy> Actually, borogove might work, as the other two strictly speaking were adjectives
Jul 07 18:17:21 <UncleNasty> in which they are perfectly able to gyre and gimble
Jul 07 18:17:53 <Hippy> I think you have it
Jul 07 18:18:07 <UncleNasty> thought slithey toves are listed as gyre'ing and gimbling in the wabe, it may be usable
Jul 07 18:18:20 <UncleNasty> s/thought/thogh
Jul 07 18:18:23 <UncleNasty> oh ffs
Jul 07 18:18:28 <UncleNasty> though!
Jul 07 18:19:20 <Hippy> Hmm. A 'borogove' can be 'mimsy', though, so it might win out
Jul 07 18:20:35 <senax> a panic of puppeteers
Jul 07 18:20:55 <Hippy> Hmm.
Jul 07 18:21:04 <UncleNasty> a ha!
Jul 07 18:21:05 <UncleNasty> http://www.thegoonshow.net/downloads/other/what_time_is_it_eccles.mp3
Jul 07 18:21:27 <NickE> OT: www.flickr.com/photos/nick_edwards for pics from UK Serenity screenings (mostly for Mark who was there)
Jul 07 18:21:46 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> heh
Jul 07 18:22:01 <Hippy> That is beautifully clear
Jul 07 18:23:26 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> heh. i like the angles have the phone box shirt
Jul 07 18:24:05 <NickE> oh ghod thats good
Jul 07 18:24:27 <UncleNasty> "my grandma" ROFL
Jul 07 18:24:29 <UncleNasty> ahem
Jul 07 18:24:38 <NickE> That was Geddys idea (teh one on the right)
Jul 07 18:24:51 <NickE> LOL just got to that too!
Jul 07 18:25:41 <NickE> (I'm disturbing my wife and son trying to watch black books with my laughing)
Jul 07 18:25:59 <UncleNasty> bluebottle & eccles make me larf
Jul 07 18:26:04 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> love black books
Jul 07 18:26:38 <Hippy> I always liked Henry and Minnie - they were great. The sort of slow delivery you'd be lynched for doing nowadays
Jul 07 18:27:32 <UncleNasty> minnie & the tiger nearly killed me
Jul 07 18:28:08 <NickE> Went to the funneral of a best mate's dad last year. The music played on exiting the church was The Ying Tong Song. I was almost wetting myself. Lovely bloke, great sense of humour
Jul 07 18:28:11 <Hippy> Well, it's rolling on to that time - the time where I have to say that 'The Scarlet Capsule' is one of the funniest shows ever written
Jul 07 18:28:18 <UncleNasty> re slow delivery: what do you think would happen in these PC days if you used Ray Ellington to do all the tribal chiefs, etc
Jul 07 18:28:19 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> I do know a man with a harry bald head...
Jul 07 18:29:13 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> or how about "This show is brought to you from an Arab Stench Recuperating Center at Stoke Poges. This show is not suitable for people."
Jul 07 18:29:24 <Hippy> Actually, that would be the only way you could do the tribal chiefs etc here. You have to have a. ..er. . .African-Englishman play the part
Jul 07 18:29:41 <UncleNasty> heh
Jul 07 18:30:01 <UncleNasty> i saw a blazing row between an 'african-american' and a black guy in the UK
Jul 07 18:30:03 <NickE> Sooo far ahead of it's time
Jul 07 18:30:34 <Hippy> Anyway, what I was going to say was, I shall be briefly AFK for my morning ablutions but then I'll be back to talk about my favourite Heinlein novel or something appropriate
Jul 07 18:30:52 <NickE> so the black guy was English of course, not some damn Yank :-)
Jul 07 18:31:10 * Hippy AFK for morning ablutions
Jul 07 18:31:28 <UncleNasty> yup
Jul 07 18:31:42 <senax> Speaking of Heinlein, anybody read the novel Spider Robinson "co-wrote" with RAH?
Jul 07 18:32:12 <NickE> Not yet. Been meaning to pickit up. Remind me of the title?
Jul 07 18:32:34 <UncleNasty> black guy was most pissed when referred to as 'african american' so the correction was made to 'african-english' to which he went into a speil about having never, ever been to africa, and that he was english and black, god damnit... was a funny thing to see
Jul 07 18:32:50 <NickE> true too
Jul 07 18:32:54 <senax> Variable Star was the title
Jul 07 18:33:08 <NickE> Oh yes of course, ta Frank
Jul 07 18:34:35 <NickE> Will have to re-read Door into Summer again as teh list had been chatting about it
Jul 07 18:35:44 <NickE> And Moon Is A Harsh Mistress (which is one of my all time favourite novels of any sort. Hope they don't fuck up the rumoured film)
Jul 07 18:35:47 <senax> I'll have to go back and re-read a couple of Heinlein books...when I've caught up on my new reading...
Jul 07 18:36:13 <UncleNasty> must not post in religion thread while floating in opiate zone
Jul 07 18:36:29 <NickE> Need to finish Destiny's Forge (is good adventure type yarn)
Jul 07 18:36:30 <senax> hehe
Jul 07 18:36:50 <UncleNasty> adi is just cruising for a response
Jul 07 18:36:54 <UncleNasty> must resist
Jul 07 18:36:59 <NickE> :-)
Jul 07 18:37:17 <NickE> plaese continue to be strong :-)
Jul 07 18:37:18 <senax> I still have three Niven collaborations in my to-read pile
Jul 07 18:38:47 <NickE> I have about 40-50 comics to catch up on, plus books. So many choices, so little time :-)
Jul 07 18:39:12 <UncleNasty> finished SIASL and starting into american gods here
Jul 07 18:39:16 <UncleNasty> again
Jul 07 18:39:21 <UncleNasty> then anasi boys
Jul 07 18:39:32 <UncleNasty> then, probably, thud
Jul 07 18:40:06 <senax> I'm in the middle of Guns Germs and Steel right now...picked it up because Lensman kept referring to it on the list.
Jul 07 18:40:12 <UncleNasty> then appleseed and back to ringworld
Jul 07 18:40:26 <UncleNasty> someone on the list _has_ to read appleseed
Jul 07 18:40:42 <senax> that's a manga isn't it?
Jul 07 18:40:48 <UncleNasty> nonono
Jul 07 18:41:33 <senax> Oh. Well, I've heard of an anime by that name so I thought it was a good guess.
Jul 07 18:41:39 <UncleNasty> http://books.google.com/books?id=rHdcUG-DMoUC&dq=appleseed+john+clute&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=pVA7B7k4iX&sig=xFzsgYuhqr4G1vcMlINf3WTixCs
Jul 07 18:42:05 <UncleNasty> there is an anime called appleseed (recently re-made with 3D animation) which is pretty bloody good
Jul 07 18:42:14 <UncleNasty> but the book is wierdly compelling
Jul 07 18:42:28 <senax> no relation?
Jul 07 18:42:37 <UncleNasty> none
Jul 07 18:43:07 <UncleNasty> i do prefer the original anime over the remake - the remake tries to be too 'matrix'
Jul 07 18:44:37 <NickE> (been listening to teh Foo Fighters all night, Ghod, they're good. Grohl was on Radio 1 yesterday and played snipps of new stuff, which was cool)
Jul 07 18:44:37 <UncleNasty> but the book 'appleseed' by john clute is a thing to experience
Jul 07 18:44:55 <UncleNasty> heh - I'mgettin into a bit of korn
Jul 07 18:45:29 <UncleNasty> and the who
Jul 07 18:45:38 <UncleNasty> only a minor disparity
Jul 07 18:45:47 <senax> I like Foo Fighters, but to me it seems they peaked with There is Nothing Left to Lose. Loved that album...
Jul 07 18:45:49 <NickE> The Who are bloody good
Jul 07 18:46:26 <senax> The 'orrible'oo. Yes, one of my all-time favorite bands.
Jul 07 18:46:59 <UncleNasty> re-watched tommy for the first time in nearly 20 years - forgot how good that film is
Jul 07 18:47:05 <NickE> I've liked all of their stuff. Not many bands I can say that about. (The Foos)
Jul 07 18:47:17 <NickE> Tommy is well weird and brilliant
Jul 07 18:47:18 <senax> Saw Roger Waters in concert last week. He's still very good.
Jul 07 18:47:58 <UncleNasty> i'd forgotten that there's not one word of spoken dialogue in the film
Jul 07 18:48:04 <senax> And, yes, he's still an asshole
Jul 07 18:48:12 <UncleNasty> lol
Jul 07 18:48:14 <senax> Love his music though
Jul 07 18:48:15 <NickE> Probably, but The Final Cut was it for me with his stuff. Good bits but really annoyed with some of it
Jul 07 18:49:01 <NickE> Well, don't have to be a saint to produce good stuff
Jul 07 18:49:24 <UncleNasty> it's roger daltry in tommy
Jul 07 18:49:25 <senax> Actually he's mellowed a lot. Did some of his more political stuff at the show...which is when a lot of the audience headed for the beer vendors and restrooms
Jul 07 18:49:35 <NickE> :-)
Jul 07 18:50:21 <senax> Tina Turner as the Acid Queen stole the show in that movie, I thought
Jul 07 18:50:30 <NickE> Agreed
Jul 07 18:50:32 <UncleNasty> yeah - that scene was twisted
Jul 07 18:50:42 <UncleNasty> the chrome maiden
Jul 07 18:50:44 <NickE> Very fucked up
Jul 07 18:50:54 <NickE> and brilliant
Jul 07 18:51:35 <NickE> brb
Jul 07 18:51:37 <senax> John Entwistle made me want to be a bassist
Jul 07 18:51:53 <UncleNasty> Listening to you,
Jul 07 18:51:54 <UncleNasty> I get the music.
Jul 07 18:51:54 <UncleNasty> Gazing at you,
Jul 07 18:51:54 <UncleNasty> I get the heat.
Jul 07 18:51:54 <UncleNasty> Following you,
Jul 07 18:51:54 <UncleNasty> I climb the mountains.
Jul 07 18:51:55 <UncleNasty> I get excitement at your feet.
Jul 07 18:51:55 <UncleNasty> Right behind you,
Jul 07 18:51:55 <UncleNasty> I see the millions.
Jul 07 18:51:56 <UncleNasty> On you,
Jul 07 18:52:00 <UncleNasty> I see the glory.
Jul 07 18:52:00 <UncleNasty> From you,
Jul 07 18:52:00 <UncleNasty> I get opinions.
Jul 07 18:52:00 <UncleNasty> From you,
Jul 07 18:52:00 <UncleNasty> I get the story.
Jul 07 18:53:42 <UncleNasty> any prog rock geeks may like to try this: http://www.rhapsody.com/yes/ultimateyes35thanniversaycollection
Jul 07 18:53:48 <UncleNasty> very good 3 cd set
Jul 07 18:54:22 <UncleNasty> brb
Jul 07 18:55:12 * MobileNasty has quit ()
Jul 07 18:56:16 <senax> I hope his phone has a keyboard...I'd hate trying to use IRC on a 12-key keypad.
Jul 07 18:57:34 <NickE> Got it already :-)
Jul 07 18:57:43 <NickE> Yes head for years
Jul 07 18:58:29 <senax> I never got into Yes much. Rush, though, I've got almost all their stuff...
Jul 07 18:58:34 <senax> And Floyd...
Jul 07 18:58:49 <NickE> Saw them acoustic at the Apollo (sorry, New Theatre) Oxford for a fund raiser, Bloody brilliant.
Jul 07 18:59:02 <senax> Yes?
Jul 07 18:59:17 <NickE> Seeing Rush twice when they do the UK in October }-)
Jul 07 18:59:30 * senax is jealous
Jul 07 18:59:35 <NickE> Yep , Yes
Jul 07 18:59:49 <senax> Haven't seen a Rush show since the Presto tour
Jul 07 18:59:53 <NickE> Rightly so I'm afraid (sorry :-)
Jul 07 19:00:03 <senax> Or was it Roll the Bones?
Jul 07 19:00:07 <NickE> R30 was "awesome"
Jul 07 19:00:14 <senax> I forget which of those came first
Jul 07 19:00:28 <NickE> Roll The bones was the last time they did the UK before R30
Jul 07 19:00:39 <NickE> Presto was earlier
Jul 07 19:01:04 <senax> I'm really hoping the Police play somewhere near me on their new tour.
Jul 07 19:01:27 <NickE> 12 bloody years! (Lucky to get that, given teh shit Neal had to deal with)
Jul 07 19:02:47 <senax> Wish I had seen Midnight Oil before they quit
Jul 07 19:03:16 <NickE> Sposed to be very good, Not familair with their stuff
Jul 07 19:04:08 <senax> When I'm deciding which shows to see, I give priority to the older musicians, since I figure I might not get the chance again one way or another.
Jul 07 19:05:54 <senax> Saw B.B. King last year. The venue was not so good, but the music was great.
Jul 07 19:06:07 * Hippy returned, abluted and ready to face the day
Jul 07 19:06:29 <senax> wb
Jul 07 19:08:17 <Hippy> Where are you, Senax? How do you know about Midnight Oil?
Jul 07 19:09:39 <senax> I'm in Omaha, Nebraska. Like most Yanks, I first heard of the Oils when Diesal and Dust was a big hit. Unlike most, I've been continuing to listen to them ever since.
Jul 07 19:10:27 <Hippy> Well, Peter Garrett might not survive in the Senate as of our election in October, so they might go on tour again :)
Jul 07 19:11:24 <senax> That would be fine by me...but I guess the odds are pretty long that they would end up touring over here again. :-)
Jul 07 19:12:30 <UncleNasty> i back
Jul 07 19:12:37 <senax> wb nasty
Jul 07 19:12:43 <UncleNasty> ty
Jul 07 19:12:58 <Hippy> They might write a protest song about NORAD, then you'd be right
Jul 07 19:13:26 <UncleNasty> btw, wrt keyboard on phone: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2005426,00.asp
Jul 07 19:14:06 <senax> I'd rather they protest STRATCOM; the HQ is about 6 miles from my house! :-)
Jul 07 19:14:20 <Hippy> I"ve just noticed something, which in itself is worth noticing, but nicknames here can be longer than 10 letters. I thought that was an IRC limitation but apparently it's just a server one
Jul 07 19:14:36 <Hippy> And who are STRATCOM?
Jul 07 19:15:12 <UncleNasty> i'd rather have the nokia e61, but you can't get that in north america
Jul 07 19:15:21 <senax> nice phone, nasty
Jul 07 19:15:28 <UncleNasty> s'ok
Jul 07 19:15:39 <UncleNasty> symbian OS so there's a lot of software available
Jul 07 19:15:52 <UncleNasty> it makes the blackberry look like the POS it is
Jul 07 19:16:09 <senax> hippy, STRATCOM is the command that controls the U.S. nuclear forces, something I know Peter Garrett is not fond of.
Jul 07 19:16:22 <senax> www.stratcom.mil
Jul 07 19:16:56 <Hippy> Oh, of course! That was what I was thinking of. They're calling themselves - they're not calling themselves SAC anymore?
Jul 07 19:17:03 * SeanS gives channel operator status to NickE
Jul 07 19:17:16 <Hippy> Evening, Sean
Jul 07 19:17:25 <UncleNasty> hiya sean
Jul 07 19:17:37 <SeanS> going right back outside with my gf
Jul 07 19:17:46 <SeanS> but hi everybody
Jul 07 19:17:50 <senax> SAC went away in a reorganization several years back.
Jul 07 19:17:52 <Hippy> Howdy
Jul 07 19:18:22 <Hippy> Huh! Just did a time check and it was 7:14:28PM
Jul 07 19:18:50 <Hippy> So with all thsoe 7's I should drink a toast to the memory of Mr Heinlein
Jul 07 19:19:15 * UncleNasty raises a can of diet coke
Jul 07 19:19:17 <senax> Damn good idea.
Jul 07 19:19:21 * Hippy toasts the memory of Mr R A Heinlein, who wrote some very good stuff indeed
Jul 07 19:19:35 * senax gets up to find a bottle of _good_ beer.
Jul 07 19:19:42 <UncleNasty> Hippy: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=135784
Jul 07 19:20:52 <senax> To Bob! TANSTAAFL!
Jul 07 19:21:15 * UncleNasty attempts to grok his cola in fullness
Jul 07 19:23:57 <Hippy> Hmm. Seems like a game worth investigating. I had a look at Eve Online but am yet to take the plunge on any online games. STill haven't taken Everquest II out of its shrinkwrap
Jul 07 19:24:32 * Hippy shamefacedly is toasting with Cointreau, which was the only alcoholic beverage I could find :(
Jul 07 19:25:04 <UncleNasty> i think frontier: first encounters is possibly one of the best games I have ever played - the graphics are a bit dated at 320x200, but the game is so free-form it makes all the fancy 3D space games released since look very poor
Jul 07 19:25:40 * senax sets aside his now-empty Rolling Rock bottle and grabs a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale
Jul 07 19:25:44 <UncleNasty> not to mention you are playing with newtonian physics... no aerodynamic motion in space!
Jul 07 19:25:49 <senax> Now that's the good stuff!
Jul 07 19:26:30 <Hippy> I"m finding that with so many games these days. Much like arcade games, they are only one or two themes and that's it.
Jul 07 19:26:35 <UncleNasty> trying to dock at a rotating coriolis station after your autopilot has been combat damaged and your belly thrusters aren't working quite right is a challenge
Jul 07 19:26:54 <UncleNasty> ooh
Jul 07 19:27:01 <UncleNasty> speaking of old concepts re-done!
Jul 07 19:27:06 <UncleNasty> check out oolite!
Jul 07 19:27:29 <UncleNasty> http://oolite.aegidian.org/
Jul 07 19:28:11 <UncleNasty> it's a nice version of elite, but nowhere on the same scale as frontier
Jul 07 19:28:16 <UncleNasty> brb again
Jul 07 19:28:20 <UncleNasty> dinnertime!
Jul 07 19:28:42 <senax> I goolged oolite (misspelled it as oolight) and got 'Did you mean Coorslight?'
Jul 07 19:29:09 <senax> Guess google thinks I should have another beer.
Jul 07 19:29:43 <Hippy> W
Jul 07 19:29:49 <Hippy> Well, Google knows best
Jul 07 19:30:09 <Hippy> It's like modern bibliomancy
Jul 07 19:30:18 <senax> Hey, it's multi-platform! Gotta like that!
Jul 07 19:30:47 <senax> Specially since I have one each Mac, Linux box and XP box.
Jul 07 19:31:15 <Hippy> Does anyone remember 'Millennium 2.2' for thje Amiga? I loved that game
Jul 07 19:31:26 <senax> ...and a Tivo and a Wii. Talk about yer heterogeneous network...
Jul 07 19:31:29 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> hey, it sean
Jul 07 19:31:38 <Hippy> Oh, yes, and does anyone have The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction ed by Peter Nicholls?
Jul 07 19:33:31 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> ick. not coors lite!
Jul 07 19:33:55 <senax> I've got his The Science in Science Fiction, hippy
Jul 07 19:34:25 * senax is a beer drinker, not a Coors Light drinker
Jul 07 19:35:10 <Hercules_Grytpype-Thynne> that's good. i'm starting to see them sell that stuff here. ug
Jul 07 19:35:22 * Hippy thinks Senax is a class act
Jul 07 19:36:08 <Hippy> Damn. I shall have to ask the list. There's a quote in the section on 'Magic' that I can't remember and I want to make sure I've got it right
Jul 07 19:39:07 * Dan (~vila@71.28.185.173) has joined #knownspace
Jul 07 19:39:16 <Hippy> But all that aside, here's Dan!
Jul 07 19:39:19 <Dan> Greetings, Programs!
Jul 07 19:39:40 <Hippy> Coded response #247
Jul 07 19:39:51 <senax> Hi Dan. Seen Tron lately?
Jul 07 19:40:20 <Dan> Nope. I need to order a copy on DVD. I used to love that movie.
Jul 07 19:40:57 <senax> Haven't seen it since, well, not long after it was released.
Jul 07 19:41:06 <Dan> Gave myself a case of tendonitus in my right arm from playing the arcade game.
Jul 07 19:41:31 <Hippy> Saw it on TV many moons ago. Now you have reminded me to look for 'Hide and Seek'
Jul 07 19:41:39 <Dan> How is everyone this evening?
Jul 07 19:41:45 <Hippy> Oh, yes, the game was good
Jul 07 19:42:11 <Hippy> Not too bad, considering it's Sunday and I think a lot of housework awaits
Jul 07 19:42:50 <senax> Nice quiet Saturday here...thankful for the air conditioning, though.
Jul 07 19:43:02 <Dan> I've got one more day of work this week, then I start a short vacation.
Jul 07 19:44:03 <Dan> My wife and I plan to start puting the office back to rights and unloading boxes so that we can start using the rest of the living room and the guest bedroom again.
Jul 07 19:45:29 <Hippy> Now that's a thought. I wonder if I should do that? Then again, I'd only be moving the stuff around, as there's still nowhere to put it
Jul 07 19:46:11 <Dan> Well, since the fire we've had the unscorched rooms of the house full of boxes of books and clutter from the office.
Jul 07 19:46:40 <Hippy> Fire? Holy Crap!
Jul 07 19:46:49 <Dan> It's take almost a whole month to get the clean-up and reconstruction done.
Jul 07 19:47:49 <Dan> Only a little one, in our home office. I managed to put it out before it spread too far.
Jul 07 19:48:04 <Dan> We were very lucky.
Jul 07 19:48:12 <Hippy> Damn right!
Jul 07 19:48:24 * InvisibleDragon has quit (Connection reset by peer)
Jul 07 19:48:47 <Hippy> Damn!
Jul 07 19:49:20 <Dan> So we've got to replace two computer desks, put the bookshelves back in there, unpack 25 boxes of books, and set all 4 computers back up.
Jul 07 19:49:28 <Hippy> Gentlemen, this has been excellent as usual, especially the game recommendations, but my mother is due to arrive soon and I have some stuff to dig out for her, so I'd best adjourn
Jul 07 19:49:33 <senax> Bye Carol. :-)
Jul 07 19:49:52 <senax> How do you know when an invisible dragon leaves the room?
Jul 07 19:49:56 <Dan> The only things that were a total loss were some of my artwork and some musical equipment.
Jul 07 19:49:59 <Hippy> 25 boxes? I thought I had a lot of books. . .
Jul 07 19:50:13 <Dan> That's just the ones in the office.
Jul 07 19:50:17 <Hippy> That's sad to hear, though
Jul 07 19:50:26 <Hippy> Anyway, I must adjourn.
Jul 07 19:50:30 <NickE> goota go hit sack
Jul 07 19:50:32 <senax> bye Hippy
Jul 07 19:50:41 <Hippy> Vale, Mr Heinlein, Mr Saberhagen and of course Frank
Jul 07 19:50:49 <NickE> adios folkks. been fun
Jul 07 19:50:59 * Hippy has quit ()
Jul 07 19:51:02 <senax> bye Nick
Jul 07 19:51:09 <Dan> About 500 hardbacks and 200-300 paperbacks. I have 4-5000 more paperbacks in other rooms.
Jul 07 19:51:10 <NickE> I'll drink to that...but tomorrow now :-)
Jul 07 19:51:22 <NickE> ttfn
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Jul 07 19:52:21 <Dan> But I'm kind of tired of talking about it after all this time.
Jul 07 19:52:28 <Dan> WB Carol.
Jul 07 19:52:53 <senax> She's still invisible...pretend you don't notice her...
Jul 07 19:53:42 <Dan> LOL!
Jul 07 19:54:01 <Dan> So, what was the hot topic for the chat today?
Jul 07 19:54:21 <senax> Hmm...I missed the beginning...
Jul 07 19:55:08 <senax> People were discussing television shows I knew nothing about (mostly British)...
Jul 07 19:55:17 <senax> music, cheese, beer...
Jul 07 19:55:25 <senax> games...
Jul 07 19:55:42 <senax> names for groups of various species...
Jul 07 19:56:12 <senax> Heinlein...
Jul 07 19:56:24 <senax> ...that's pretty much it as I recall.
Jul 07 19:57:00 <senax> I more-or-less missed Larry (came in just before he left).
Jul 07 19:57:10 <Dan> Sounds like I missed a good time.
Jul 07 19:57:40 <senax> Pretty good, yeah.
Jul 07 19:58:09 <Dan> Oh well, my work schedule does make me miss chats every so often.
Jul 07 19:58:45 <senax> I miss a lot of them because my wife and son want me to be doing other things on Saturday afternoons.
Jul 07 19:59:09 <senax> Today, she's boating with girlfriends, and he's at a movie with his buddies.
Jul 07 19:59:31 <senax> And I'm the lone geek at home with the computer.
Jul 07 19:59:46 <senax> :-)
Jul 07 20:00:59 <senax> Well, me and two smelly old dogs, but they just sleep.
Jul 07 20:01:31 <Dan> We've got one computer set up in the living room at the moment, and my wife is watching TV while I chat.
Jul 07 20:08:13 <senax> Going to find something to eat--back in a while.
Jul 07 20:08:23 <Dan> OK
Jul 07 20:08:23 <UncleNasty> back for a minute
Jul 07 20:08:24 * senax is now known as senax_afk
Jul 07 20:09:32 <UncleNasty> hi dan
Jul 07 20:09:39 <Dan> Hiya.
Jul 07 20:09:49 <UncleNasty> how goes?
Jul 07 20:10:04 <Dan> Not bad. Home from work, finally.
Jul 07 20:10:18 <UncleNasty> i feel your pain
Jul 07 20:10:29 <Dan> Relaxing with a cold beer and this chat.
Jul 07 20:10:35 <UncleNasty> i think it was 3am when i got in this morning
Jul 07 20:10:54 <UncleNasty> sec - going mobile
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Jul 07 20:11:57 <MobileNasty> Heh likin my new phone :)
Jul 07 20:12:30 <Dan> LOL!
Jul 07 20:13:12 * MobileNasty is now enjoying a post-prandial smoke on the balcony
Jul 07 20:13:41 <Dan> Just put one out, myself.
Jul 07 20:13:54 <MobileNasty> Watchin the sun go down behind the windmills
Jul 07 20:14:19 <Dan> Cool!
Jul 07 20:14:43 <MobileNasty> Have you got google earth?
Jul 07 20:15:19 <Dan> Don't think so, no.
Jul 07 20:15:43 <MobileNasty> It's a free download and worth it
Jul 07 20:15:58 <MobileNasty> Very cool app
Jul 07 20:16:11 <Dan> Kind of short of hard drive space until I burn some more DVDs.
Jul 07 20:17:34 <MobileNasty> But, if you grab it and search for "shelburne, ontario, canada" just to the west of the town there's a number of pics of the windfarm
Jul 07 20:17:55 <MobileNasty> I live in the middle of it
Jul 07 20:18:07 <Dan> Will do so sometime.
Jul 07 20:18:45 <MobileNasty> It's about 40mb and cross platform
Jul 07 20:18:57 <MobileNasty> Very cool app
Jul 07 20:19:24 <UncleNasty> back indoors
Jul 07 20:19:36 * MobileNasty has quit ()
Jul 07 20:22:58 <UncleNasty> http://earth.google.com/
Jul 07 20:27:05 <UncleNasty> n memory of RAH I am listening to Starship Trooper
Jul 07 20:27:11 * senax_afk is now known as senax
Jul 07 20:27:20 <senax> Back for a bit.
Jul 07 20:27:27 <Dan> WB
Jul 07 20:27:27 <UncleNasty> wb
Jul 07 20:27:38 <UncleNasty> hrm
Jul 07 20:27:45 <UncleNasty> talk about coincidence
Jul 07 20:27:56 <UncleNasty> i just noticed i am browsing aphelion
Jul 07 20:27:57 <UncleNasty> lol
Jul 07 20:28:23 <Dan> Good mag. I highly reccomend it. LOL!
Jul 07 20:29:05 <UncleNasty> jumping all over the place, thanks to the meds, Dan! Have you read Appleseed? (john clute not the manga)
Jul 07 20:29:16 <Dan> Nope.
Jul 07 20:29:33 <UncleNasty> can't find anyone who has
Jul 07 20:29:42 <UncleNasty> it's a wierd read and I need to discuss it with someone gods damnit!
Jul 07 20:32:10 <Dan> I understand.
Jul 07 20:32:41 <UncleNasty> the writing style is difficult to get into, but once you get the flow it's tremendous
Jul 07 20:32:59 <UncleNasty> first time I tried to read it I was seriously jetlagged and it made no sense
Jul 07 20:33:20 <UncleNasty> second attempt went far better
Jul 07 20:35:00 <UncleNasty> http://trashotron.com/agony/reviews/clute-appleseed.htm
Jul 07 20:35:03 <Dan> Sound like several writers that I've tried in the last few years. Minus the jetlag, of course.
Jul 07 20:39:11 <UncleNasty> this one is not a bad review: http://www.greenmanreview.com/book/book_clute_appleseed.html
Jul 07 20:39:42 <UncleNasty> "a bit like the Mad Hatter's tea party, as experienced by Leopold Bloom"
Jul 07 20:40:12 <Dan> That's one of Cat's reviews. I've never seen him do a hateful one, just thourough.
Jul 07 20:42:58 * SeanS gives channel operator status to Dan
Jul 07 20:43:21 * SeanS gives voice to UncleNasty
Jul 07 20:43:50 <UncleNasty> w00t
Jul 07 20:43:55 <UncleNasty> promoted at last ;)
Jul 07 20:44:04 <SeanS> actually that is probablly backward
Jul 07 20:44:31 <UncleNasty> think i am due new meds - sec
Jul 07 20:44:31 * SeanS removes channel operator status from Dan
Jul 07 20:44:41 * SeanS gives channel operator status to UncleNasty
Jul 07 20:44:45 <senax> He has the wierding way.
Jul 07 20:44:46 * SeanS gives voice to Dan
Jul 07 20:45:08 <Dan> Thanks, Sean.
Jul 07 20:45:34 * senax kind of feels left out
Jul 07 20:45:51 * SeanS is drunk so bear with me
Jul 07 20:46:18 * SeanS gives voice to senax
Jul 07 20:46:31 <senax> Woohoo!
Jul 07 20:46:33 <UncleNasty> back!
Jul 07 20:46:37 <UncleNasty> thx sean
Jul 07 20:46:50 * UncleNasty chugs opiates
Jul 07 20:47:07 <senax> And what is voice exactly? IRC didn't have this voice thing back in the day...
Jul 07 20:47:12 <SeanS> just came in from outside
Jul 07 20:47:19 * senax is a digital old fart
Jul 07 20:47:41 <SeanS> voice means that you go to the top of the list and if someone moderates the channel you can still talk
Jul 07 20:47:49 <UncleNasty> it's status, senax
Jul 07 20:47:59 <UncleNasty> it makes you stand out from the proles ;)
Jul 07 20:48:16 <UncleNasty> http://codex.wordpress.org/User:ringmaster/IRC_Voice
Jul 07 20:48:24 <SeanS> keeps you above that dang dragon girl anyway ;)
Jul 07 20:48:32 <senax> Those nasty stinking proles...of which I were one until just now...
Jul 07 20:48:34 <UncleNasty> lol
Jul 07 20:49:37 <SeanS> shit, we are all friends... i should just op everybody
Jul 07 20:49:39 <UncleNasty> and me being promoted to chanop is a means to power abuse
Jul 07 20:49:40 <UncleNasty> :D
Jul 07 20:50:15 <UncleNasty> anyway, what good is power if you're not allowed to abuse it ;)
Jul 07 20:50:23 <SeanS> absolutely
Jul 07 20:50:30 <SeanS> i have the ultimate power tho
Jul 07 20:50:49 <UncleNasty> yah - bow before sean as he's got root (and not in th dirty aussie sense)
Jul 07 20:51:01 <senax> Does this mean I can flood the channel by pasting all the lyrics to a long song without getting kicked? :-)
Jul 07 20:51:18 <SeanS> i removed flood protection
Jul 07 20:51:23 <UncleNasty> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:IRC
Jul 07 20:51:31 <UncleNasty> there ya go, senax
Jul 07 20:51:35 <UncleNasty> all the teminology
Jul 07 20:51:41 <senax> I learned my lesson on that one.
Jul 07 20:51:42 <UncleNasty> with a r in there somewhere
Jul 07 20:52:07 <SeanS> senax, you should be able to post whatever
Jul 07 20:52:25 <SeanS> i removed flood protection
Jul 07 20:52:39 <senax> That incident was an accident, as it were
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Jul 07 20:53:00 <UncleNasty> hola MaGnUs-N
Jul 07 20:53:07 <UncleNasty> you appear to be ghosted
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Jul 07 20:53:36 <senax> wb magnus
Jul 07 20:55:32 <UncleNasty> scott adams should be sliced with paper cuts and rolled in salt
Jul 07 20:55:42 <SeanS> has it been a good chat day?
Jul 07 20:55:43 <UncleNasty> popups on the bloody dilbert site
Jul 07 20:55:43 <Dan> lol
Jul 07 20:56:17 <senax> It has been pretty good...I caught most of it for a change.
Jul 07 20:56:36 <senax> Learned things I never knew about cheese.
Jul 07 20:56:37 <SeanS> i have been down on the river all day
Jul 07 20:56:42 <UncleNasty> heh
Jul 07 20:56:50 <senax> Which river is that, Sean?
Jul 07 20:57:01 <SeanS> the kentucky river
Jul 07 20:57:13 <SeanS> my back yard basically
Jul 07 20:58:06 <senax> I leave near the Muddy Mo (the Missouri River) myself. It's a few miles away, but I have a small boat and a marina slip.
Jul 07 20:58:23 <senax> My wife is boating on the Mo as we speak.
Jul 07 20:58:54 <SeanS> i put in and out every day
Jul 07 20:59:03 <SeanS> ramp about a mile away
Jul 07 20:59:26 <senax> Nice...I only get out on the water once every 1-2 weeks.
Jul 07 21:00:17 <SeanS> if my gf didnt have balance problems, i would just walk over the hill
Jul 07 21:00:21 <senax> The inlet of our marina is silted up so it's only about 3 feet deep right now...a lot of the big boats can't go out at all.
Jul 07 21:00:36 <SeanS> i own the beach... everybody pulls into my yard
Jul 07 21:00:53 <senax> Our little 18-foot I/O is still good, as long as we raise the outdrive.
Jul 07 21:01:28 <SeanS> i have a 15 foot boston whaler with a 50 on it
Jul 07 21:01:54 <senax> The old tub handles like a shopping cart with a broken wheel at low speeds, but once we're out on the river we're good.
Jul 07 21:02:02 <UncleNasty> i think i need some sort of leisure craft... I've got plans for a small dirigible, but i'm apparently not allowed to use hydrogen as a lifting gas which sux
Jul 07 21:02:22 <SeanS> hehe
Jul 07 21:02:33 <senax> Boston whaler, nice...local sheriff has a nice one of those
Jul 07 21:02:56 <senax> The hydrogen thing is illegal?
Jul 07 21:03:11 <UncleNasty> yup
Jul 07 21:03:18 <SeanS> had to load up a couple of emt guys earlier because some dome bitch slammed her jetski into the rocks across the river
Jul 07 21:03:23 <senax> Didn't know that
Jul 07 21:03:27 <senax> Ow.
Jul 07 21:03:28 <UncleNasty> apparently shit which happened 80 years ago means that you can't use it now
Jul 07 21:03:42 <senax> Hindenburg?
Jul 07 21:04:01 <UncleNasty> that's like saying that you shuldn't attempt transatlantic flight because the wright flyer could only manage a couple of hundred feet of powered flight
Jul 07 21:04:47 <senax> Jetskis are kind of a problem here, but fortunately not as common as on the lakes.
Jul 07 21:05:03 <UncleNasty> not to mention that only 30 or so people died in the hindenburg accident - not exactly a major incident... and it was the first time paying passengers died on a dirigible
Jul 07 21:05:43 <senax> My policy is to expect them (jetskis) to maneuver randomly, and 99% of the time, that's what they seem to do.
Jul 07 21:06:15 <UncleNasty> senax: much like cyclists on roads ;)
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Jul 07 21:08:22 <senax> As far as hydrogen, my biggest fear would be thunderstorms. Dirigibles don't have the altitude capability to go over them, and they're kind of slow too.
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Jul 07 21:09:35 <senax> Nasty seems to be having connection trouble.
Jul 07 21:09:52 <SeanS> yep
Jul 07 21:10:15 <MobileNasty> Has anyone seen anything about "sprites"?
Jul 07 21:10:30 <senax> Sprites?
Jul 07 21:10:40 <senax> In what context?
Jul 07 21:10:47 <MobileNasty> Hindenberg could do germany to new york in 4 days
Jul 07 21:10:56 <SeanS> no, but i have been drinking beer all day
Jul 07 21:11:04 <MobileNasty> And that was with 1920s tech
Jul 07 21:11:54 <MobileNasty> Conductive shell to draw charge around the gas envelope instead of through it...
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Jul 07 21:12:46 <senax> IIRC helium is rather scarce most places on earth, whereas hydrogen is easy to make. Is helium still pretty expensive?
Jul 07 21:12:59 <MobileNasty> Yup
Jul 07 21:14:31 <Dan> BRB, going to teach my wife how to use the new fire extinguisher.
Jul 07 21:14:52 <senax> Have fun Dan.
Jul 07 21:16:09 <MobileNasty> Ttyl dan
Jul 07 21:20:02 <MobileNasty> Just investigating google talk for the phone
Jul 07 21:21:47 <senax> Google talk? Is it an IM thing, or something like VOIP?
Jul 07 21:22:13 <MobileNasty> It's an im app
Jul 07 21:22:30 <MobileNasty> Runs jabber protocol
Jul 07 21:23:22 <senax> There are so many IM apps and protocols I find it confusing...but I'm not much of an IMer.
Jul 07 21:25:04 <MobileNasty> Jabber's ok
Jul 07 21:25:29 <MobileNasty> It's like most FOSS stuff tho
Jul 07 21:25:50 <senax> I tend to use email for asynchronous communication, and hardly ever use any kind of IM
Jul 07 21:26:16 <MobileNasty> Great potential still waiting to be fully implemented
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Jul 07 21:26:37 <senax> There's the network effect...most people I know don't use any kind of IM, so I don't
Jul 07 21:26:40 <MobileNasty> iM is a lifesaver for work
Jul 07 21:27:00 <MobileNasty> Hey growler
Jul 07 21:27:06 <senax> HI growler
Jul 07 21:27:54 <growler> hi
Jul 07 21:27:59 <senax> Quick poll: did the Fantastic Four movie suck, or not?
Jul 07 21:28:27 <MobileNasty> Hrm - first or second one?
Jul 07 21:28:56 <senax> The 2005 one
Jul 07 21:29:05 <growler> haven't had the enthusiasm to see it
Jul 07 21:29:27 <MobileNasty> First one: not great but not terrible
Jul 07 21:29:42 <senax> My wife recorded it from HBO, now I don't know whether to bother watching it.
Jul 07 21:29:44 <MobileNasty> Second one: not seen it yet
Jul 07 21:29:45 <growler> I"ve noticed recently that if I don't go see a movie in it's first week I'll never go the theatre to see it if it doesn't immediately get good reviews
Jul 07 21:30:11 <growler> Hype has a life half of a weekend
Jul 07 21:30:21 <senax> LOL
Jul 07 21:30:31 <MobileNasty> It's worth watching but ignore the whole ben grimm switcheroo bit
Jul 07 21:31:00 <senax> I'm not a comics fan, nasty, is that something obscure to a non-fan?
Jul 07 21:31:04 <growler> I just read all the Marvel Zombie comcs to-date. That was quite fun - I liked the insane Reed Richards.
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Jul 07 21:32:10 <UncleNasty> yay for apple illuminated keyboards
Jul 07 21:32:38 * senax is jealos
Jul 07 21:32:39 <growler> I thought the first FF movie was better than I expected - not great, but not annoying
Jul 07 21:32:45 <senax> er, jealous
Jul 07 21:32:51 <UncleNasty> lol
Jul 07 21:33:10 <senax> My iBook has a plain dingy formerly-white keyboard
Jul 07 21:33:18 <UncleNasty> first FF would have been better without the stupid machine which could revert to human and back
Jul 07 21:33:27 <growler> I've got one of the black macbooks. Such a sexy berast
Jul 07 21:33:30 <UncleNasty> i have a macbook pro for work
Jul 07 21:33:42 <UncleNasty> i have feeling for it which are not proper between man & machine
Jul 07 21:33:59 <Dan> back
Jul 07 21:34:06 <UncleNasty> wb dan
Jul 07 21:34:34 <senax> I mainly use a SunRay at work. Not very powerful, but when your main apps are a bunch of terminal windows, it gets the job done.
Jul 07 21:35:06 <UncleNasty> yeah - i mostly work on terminal windows
Jul 07 21:36:47 <senax> Almost all of the actual machines I work on are in server rooms anyway, so any decent X client is OK.
Jul 07 21:37:35 <senax> Oops, I mean X server. Sometimes I forget that X reverses the client/server thing.
Jul 07 21:37:45 <UncleNasty> lol
Jul 07 21:37:49 <UncleNasty> vnc
Jul 07 21:38:08 <UncleNasty> i made a linux terminal server using vnc - it was totally cool
Jul 07 21:38:34 <UncleNasty> and stupidly easy
Jul 07 21:42:37 <senax> Actually, I usually run a bunch of local terminal sessions, and have a script log in via ssh or rsh (depending on the box) to each host I log into. Not really using X for its network features, but simple to script.
Jul 07 21:43:07 <UncleNasty> you on a box running macos?
Jul 07 21:43:47 <senax> At the moment, yes, but I was referring to my work environment which is Solaris.
Jul 07 21:43:56 <UncleNasty> ahh k
Jul 07 21:44:40 <senax> I'm OS-agnostic, as long as it's some form of Unix. ;-)
Jul 07 21:44:49 <UncleNasty> heh
Jul 07 21:45:01 <UncleNasty> on macos jellyfissh is a good app to have
Jul 07 21:45:08 <UncleNasty> basically a ssh bookmark keeper
Jul 07 21:45:25 <senax> I keep an XP box around for the wife & son, and for me to play MS Flight Sim on.
Jul 07 21:45:38 <senax> I'll check out jellyfish.
Jul 07 21:51:49 <senax> Growler, does your MacBook have the glossy screen?
Jul 07 21:53:53 * senax thinks he hears a cricket.
Jul 07 21:54:03 <UncleNasty> ook
Jul 07 21:54:15 <UncleNasty> sorry - was looking through bill warren's site
Jul 07 21:54:27 <UncleNasty> my macbook is the glossy
Jul 07 21:54:34 <UncleNasty> lovely screen but a bugger to keep clean
Jul 07 21:54:47 <senax> How is it as far as glare?
Jul 07 21:55:28 <UncleNasty> as i said, I have feeling for this laptop a man should not hold
Jul 07 21:55:38 <senax> lol
Jul 07 21:55:45 <UncleNasty> no problems with reflectivity and full keyboard control for screen brightness
Jul 07 21:56:49 <UncleNasty> it has to be the most comfortable screen I have worked with
Jul 07 21:56:56 <senax> I'm still happy with my iBook G4 as long as it holds up, but more memory and higher screen res would be nice.
Jul 07 21:57:09 <UncleNasty> 1440x900
Jul 07 21:57:16 <UncleNasty> on the 15" macbook pro
Jul 07 21:57:24 <senax> Nice.
Jul 07 21:57:28 <UncleNasty> and it's _so_ light
Jul 07 21:57:40 <UncleNasty> not to mention having a battery life that astounded me
Jul 07 21:58:02 <senax> I'm limited to 640MB of RAM. I maxed it out when I ordered it, but 1-2GB would be nice.
Jul 07 21:58:06 <UncleNasty> my last laptop (amd athlon 64 3000+) would barely last through 2 hours on battery
Jul 07 21:58:18 <UncleNasty> this thing has given me 5 hours of work
Jul 07 21:58:33 <UncleNasty> and i got the gig of ram and 120gb hdu
Jul 07 21:59:09 <senax> I get 4 hours or so on my newer battery...replaced the original after 2 years when I noticed it wouldn't hold a charge as long
Jul 07 21:59:37 <growler> oops, was distracted.Yes, has glossy screen
Jul 07 22:00:15 <growler> You clean them with micro-fibre clothes. Optometrists sell especially fine grained clothes for cleaningi glass.
Jul 07 22:00:33 <UncleNasty> yah - I use my glasses cloth
Jul 07 22:00:38 <UncleNasty> and my old lid-bag
Jul 07 22:00:55 <senax> I use those on my LCD screens...and my glasses.
Jul 07 22:01:27 <Dan> OK folks, time for me to watch a bit of TV and then head off to bed.
Jul 07 22:01:37 <senax> Bye Dan
Jul 07 22:01:37 <UncleNasty> adios dan!
Jul 07 22:01:46 <Dan> Goodnight!
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Jul 07 22:02:44 <growler> Best battery life I've seen is my sisters Dell laptop with extended battery. Goes amd goes
Jul 07 22:03:14 <senax> What IRC clients do you guys use? I've been using Colloquy on my iBook for a couple of years.
Jul 07 22:03:33 <UncleNasty> i'm on colloquy now
Jul 07 22:03:41 <UncleNasty> i also used x-chat and bitchx
Jul 07 22:03:46 <UncleNasty> x-chat2 is nice
Jul 07 22:03:53 <growler> i only irc to this, and use the prirc java applet
Jul 07 22:03:54 <UncleNasty> but colloquy is not lacking anything
Jul 07 22:04:18 <UncleNasty> not to mention the amusement you get of switching it into 'novel' mode
Jul 07 22:04:55 <UncleNasty> "OK folks,
Jul 07 22:04:55 <UncleNasty> "
Jul 07 22:04:56 <UncleNasty> Dan says
Jul 07 22:04:56 <UncleNasty> "
Jul 07 22:04:57 <UncleNasty> time for me to watch a bit of TV and then head off to bed.
Jul 07 22:04:57 <UncleNasty> "
Jul 07 22:04:57 <UncleNasty> [21:59]
Jul 07 22:04:58 <senax> I like Adium; I think if they added IRC to it, I'd be able to use one chat client for everything.
Jul 07 22:04:58 <UncleNasty> "
Jul 07 22:04:58 <UncleNasty> adios dan!,
Jul 07 22:04:59 <UncleNasty> "
Jul 07 22:04:59 <UncleNasty> exclaimed UncleNasty.
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> [21:59]
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> "
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> Bye Dan,
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> "
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> said senax.
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> [21:59]
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> "
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> Goodnight!,
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> "
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> exclaimed Dan.
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> [21:59]
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> Dan left the chat room.
Jul 07 22:05:04 <UncleNasty> aahhh that looks crap
Jul 07 22:05:08 <UncleNasty> adium is ok
Jul 07 22:05:19 <UncleNasty> the duck makes me laugh
Jul 07 22:05:37 <UncleNasty> switch to novel style every now & then - t'is funny
Jul 07 22:06:20 <senax> I just switched to it--the stuff you pasted looks like crap! :-)
Jul 07 22:06:30 <UncleNasty> LOL
Jul 07 22:09:42 <senax> I tried downloading the newest version of Stellarium, but was disappointed to find that it requires OS 10.4
Jul 07 22:10:00 <senax> I'll have to upgrade sooner or later.
Jul 07 22:10:05 <UncleNasty> qui es Stellarium?
Jul 07 22:10:12 <UncleNasty> 10.4 is not bad
Jul 07 22:10:24 <UncleNasty> i'm looking forward to the new version in october
Jul 07 22:10:26 <senax> It's an astronomy program--a planetarium, more or less.
Jul 07 22:11:06 <UncleNasty> ahhh cool
Jul 07 22:11:09 <UncleNasty> i was missing kstars
Jul 07 22:11:47 <UncleNasty> celestia was nice on linux
Jul 07 22:12:29 <senax> I liked celstia; I have it on my XP box
Jul 07 22:12:34 <growler> bye, off ot play footy
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Jul 07 22:13:21 <senax> I'm sure celestia would be a real dog on a 1GHz G4, if it even runs...
Jul 07 22:13:55 <senax> Wife is home, time for me to go.
Jul 07 22:14:01 <UncleNasty> i think it's more to do with the quality of the 3D accelleration on your video card
Jul 07 22:14:07 <UncleNasty> np - adios, senax
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Jul 07 22:16:41 <UncleNasty> anyone still alive in there?
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Jul 07 22:56:27 <MobileNasty> Anyone awake?
Jul 07 22:58:53 * MobileNasty has quit ()
Jul 07 23:02:30 <InvisibleDragon> Awake
Jul 07 23:11:40 <InvisibleDragon> but going to bed.....
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